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Rifle · Proprietary · Not SAAMI standardized · Not standardizedObsolete

.38-70 Winchester

Also known as .38-70 Win · .38-70 WCF

Winchester Model 1886 black powder cartridge for medium to large game; part of Winchester's black powder lineup, used in custom-ordered Model 1886 rifles..

Caliber
0.378″ · 9.601 mm
Introduced
1894
Case
Rimmed
Parent
.40-70 Sharps
Primary use
Hunting
Status
Discontinued
Obsolete
Obsolete

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Velocity1,700–1,910 fps
Energy1,733–2,188 ft·lb
Identity
Introduced
1894
Type
Rifle
Origin
United States
Inventor
Winchester
Manufacturer
Winchester Repeating Arms
Standard
Proprietary · Not SAAMI standardized · Not standardized
SAAMI
Not SAAMI standardized
Obsolete
Obsolete
Status
Discontinued
Availability
Rare
Build
Case capacity
70.8 gr H₂O
Twist (typical)
1:12
Primer
Berdan Large Rifle
Case type
Rimmed
Pressure & range
Max pressure
24,000 CUP, SAAMI crusher
Eff. range
200 yd
Max range
3600 yd
Recoil
15.3–29.4 ft·lb

Introduced by Winchester Repeating Arms

Ballistics

Representative trajectory · velocity only, no drag model · 100 yd zero0–500 yd
-100" -80" -60" -40" -20" 0" Line of sight 0 yd 50 yd 100 yd 150 yd 200 yd 250 yd 300 yd 350 yd 400 yd 450 yd 500 yd 100 yd zero 95″ drop @ 500 yd
Drop Zero

Velocity only, no drag model: no published ballistic coefficient is on file for .38-70 Winchester, so this is the shape gravity alone gives the advertised velocity. Drag would steepen it. The tool below solves real loads through their published G1 or G7 model.

Open in Ballistic Compare
Parent case
.40-70 Sharps

Representative trajectory — modeled from a single velocity input (no published BC for this cartridge yet).

Dimensionscase measurements · scale drawing · size vs familiar rounds

Case dimensions — the scale drawing at the top of the page is built from these.

Cartridges of the World · approximate
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Bullet ⌀ 9.600.378 ~
Neck ⌀ 10.240.403 ·
Shoulder ⌀ 10.690.421 ·
Shoulder angle 15°—
Base ⌀ 12.850.506 ·
Rim ⌀ 15.240.600 ·
Belt ⌀ n/a
Rim thickness 1.790.070
Neck length 9.910.390
Case length 58.672.310 ~
Overall length 69.342.730 ·

Size vs familiar rounds

Drawn at true 1:1 — every case is accurate relative to the others. Absolute size depends on your screen's pixel density, so measuring one against a real ruler may be off. .38-70 Winchester is highlighted below.

Missing a dimension for .38-70 Winchester? Some case measurements aren't in a published SAAMI/CIP drawing yet. Have a factory or reamer print? Send it → — verified hard-to-find data earns a free Lindcott sticker.

Reloading costestimate cost per round vs factory

Estimate your cost per round and how it compares to factory. Inputs are yours — nothing is stored.

Cost estimate only — not load data. Charge weight is your input; follow published manuals for safe charges.

Firearms chambered in .38-70 Winchester

Winchester Model 1886 Rifle 38-70 WinWinchester Winchester Model 1886Winchester Model 1886 .45-70 Govt

Lineage

Immediate parent
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Connected reference

History

One of the less common Winchester Model 1886 cartridges, the .38-70 was available on special order for hunters who wanted a .38 caliber option in the Model 1886 action. It is a transitional black powder cartridge from the late 1880s, predating the adoption of smokeless powder in lever-action rifles.

FAQs

What twist rate does .38-70 Winchester use?
.38-70 Winchester typically uses a 1:12 twist rate.
What bullet diameter is .38-70 Winchester?
.38-70 Winchester uses a 0.378″ (9.601 mm) diameter bullet.
Is .38-70 Winchester still in production?
.38-70 Winchester is discontinued; typical availability is rare.
What is .38-70 Winchester used for?
.38-70 Winchester is primarily used for hunting.
What is .38-70 Winchester based on?
.38-70 Winchester is derived from the .40-70 Sharps case.

Sources & provenance

Data & sources. Specs compiled from the Lindcott Armory reference; the trajectory is modeled (point-mass), not measured. See methodology. Spotted an error? Report it →

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