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8x64mm J

Also known as 8 x 64

8x64mm J is a rimless bottlenecked rifle cartridge of Germany origin.

Caliber
0.3185″ · 8.09 mm
Introduced
1912
Case
Rimless
Parent
8x64mm S
Primary use
Hunting
Status
Discontinued
Obsolete
Obsolete

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Velocity2,600–2,780 fps
Energy2,612–2,986 ft·lb
Identity
Introduced
1912
Type
Rifle
Origin
Germany
Inventor
Wilhelm Brenneke
Manufacturer
Brenneke
Standard
CIP · Not SAAMI standardized · CIP standardized
SAAMI
Not SAAMI standardized
Obsolete
Obsolete
Status
Discontinued
Availability
Rare
Build
Case capacity
69.9 gr H₂O
Twist (typical)
1:9.4
Primer
Large Rifle Magnum
Case type
Rimless
Pressure & range
Max pressure
58,740 psi, CIP transducer
Eff. range
300 yd
Max range
1500 yd
Recoil
16.8–18.3 ft·lb

Ballistics

Representative trajectory · velocity only, no drag model · 100 yd zero0–800 yd
-120" -100" -80" -60" -40" -20" 0" Line of sight 0 yd 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd 600 yd 700 yd 800 yd 100 yd zero 126″ drop @ 800 yd
Drop Zero

Velocity only, no drag model: no published ballistic coefficient is on file for 8x64mm J, so this is the shape gravity alone gives the advertised velocity. Drag would steepen it. The tool below solves real loads through their published G1 or G7 model.

Open in Ballistic Compare
Parent case
8x64mm S

Representative trajectory — modeled from a single velocity input (no published BC for this cartridge yet).

Dimensionscase measurements · scale drawing · size vs familiar rounds

Case dimensions — the scale drawing at the top of the page is built from these.

CIP TDCC · verified
Measuremmin✓
Bullet ⌀ 8.090.319 ✓
Neck ⌀ 8.860.349 ✓
Shoulder ⌀ 10.850.427 ✓
Shoulder angle 14°— ≈
Base ⌀ 11.950.470 ✓
Rim ⌀ 12.000.472 ✓
Belt ⌀ n/a
Rim thickness 1.300.051 ✓
Neck length 7.910.311 ≈
Case length 63.702.508 ✓
Overall length 86.003.386 ✓

Size vs familiar rounds

Drawn at true 1:1 — every case is accurate relative to the others. Absolute size depends on your screen's pixel density, so measuring one against a real ruler may be off. 8x64mm J is highlighted below.

Reloading costestimate cost per round vs factory

Estimate your cost per round and how it compares to factory. Inputs are yours — nothing is stored.

Cost estimate only — not load data. Charge weight is your input; follow published manuals for safe charges.

Lineage

Immediate parent
Family TreeOpen 8x64mm J in the interactive cartridge family tree

Connected reference

History

derived from the 8x64mm S.

FAQs

What twist rate does 8x64mm J use?
8x64mm J typically uses a 1:9.4 twist rate.
What bullet diameter is 8x64mm J?
8x64mm J uses a 0.3185″ (8.09 mm) diameter bullet.
Is 8x64mm J still in production?
8x64mm J is discontinued; typical availability is rare.
What is 8x64mm J used for?
8x64mm J is primarily used for hunting.
What is 8x64mm J based on?
8x64mm J is derived from the 8x64mm S case.

Sources & provenance

Data & sources. Specs compiled from the Lindcott Armory reference; the trajectory is modeled (point-mass), not measured. See methodology. Spotted an error? Report it →

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