Compare / 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli vs 11x59mm Gras

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10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli vs 11x59mm Gras

11x59mm Gras is faster (1,500 vs 1,400 fps); 11x59mm Gras carries more energy (1,929 vs 1,360 ft·lb); 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli recoils less.

10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli →
Representative trajectory · 25 yd zero0–200 yd
25 yd · zero0″−31″31″ drop @ 200 yd0100200Open in Ballistic Compare ↗
11x59mm Gras →
Representative trajectory · 100 yd zero0–500 yd
100 yd · zero0″−154″154″ drop @ 500 yd0250500Open in Ballistic Compare ↗
10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli11x59mm Gras
TypeRimfireRifle
Introduced18671874
Bullet ⌀0.416″0.447″
Case length1.496″2.323″
Velocity1,345–1,400 fps1,430–1,500 fps
Energy1,255–1,360 ft·lb1,752–1,929 ft·lb
Max pressure18,000 psi20,000 psi
Recoil12–16 ft·lb14–18 ft·lb
Eff. range400 yd400 yd

FAQs

Is 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli faster than 11x59mm Gras?
11x59mm Gras is faster — up to 1,500 fps versus 1,400 fps.
Does 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli hit harder than 11x59mm Gras?
11x59mm Gras carries more muzzle energy (1,929 vs 1,360 ft·lb).