Compare / 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli vs 11x59mm Gras
Cartridge comparison
10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli vs 11x59mm Gras
11x59mm Gras is faster (1,500 vs 1,400 fps); 11x59mm Gras carries more energy (1,929 vs 1,360 ft·lb); 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli recoils less.
10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli →Representative trajectory · 25 yd zero0–200 yd Open in Ballistic Compare ↗
11x59mm Gras →Representative trajectory · 100 yd zero0–500 yd Open in Ballistic Compare ↗
| 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli | 11x59mm Gras | |
|---|---|---|
| Type | Rimfire | Rifle |
| Introduced | 1867 | 1874 |
| Bullet ⌀ | 0.416″ | 0.447″ |
| Case length | 1.496″ | 2.323″ |
| Velocity | 1,345–1,400 fps | 1,430–1,500 fps |
| Energy | 1,255–1,360 ft·lb | 1,752–1,929 ft·lb |
| Max pressure | 18,000 psi | 20,000 psi |
| Recoil | 12–16 ft·lb | 14–18 ft·lb |
| Eff. range | 400 yd | 400 yd |
FAQs
- Is 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli faster than 11x59mm Gras?
- 11x59mm Gras is faster — up to 1,500 fps versus 1,400 fps.
- Does 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli hit harder than 11x59mm Gras?
- 11x59mm Gras carries more muzzle energy (1,929 vs 1,360 ft·lb).
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