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Rimfire · Obsolete / Non-standard

10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli

Also known as 10.4mm Vetterli · 10.4x38mmR · Swiss M1867 · .41 Swiss

One of the world's first rimfire cartridges adopted for a repeating military rifle.

Caliber
0.415″ · 10.54 mm
Introduced
1867
Case
Rimfire
Primary use
Military (Historical)
Status
Obsolete

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VelocityBeing verified
EnergyBeing verified
Typical grains313 gr
Identity
Introduced
1867
Type
Rimfire
Origin
Switzerland
Inventor
Friedrich Vetterli
Manufacturer
Swiss Federal Arsenal (Bern)
Standard
Obsolete / Non-standard
Status
Obsolete
Availability
Collector Only
Build
Case capacity
35 gr H₂O
Twist (typical)
1:22
Primer
Rimfire
Case type
Rimfire
Pressure & range
Max pressure
18,000 psi
Eff. range
400 yd
Max range
1800 yd
Recoil
12–16 ft·lb
Subsonic
Capable

Ballistics

Published velocity/energy data isn't available for 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli — an obsolete/collector cartridge.

Performance

Best for Withheld until verified
Best for Withheld until verified
Dimensionscase measurements · scale drawing · size vs familiar rounds

Case dimensions — the scale drawing at the top of the page is built from these.

Wikipedia · approximate
Measuremmin
Bullet ⌀ 10.540.415 ·
Neck ⌀ 11.400.449 ~
Shoulder ⌀ 13.400.528 ~
Shoulder angle
Base ⌀ 13.600.535 ~
Rim ⌀ 15.800.622 ~
Belt ⌀ n/a
Rim thickness
Neck length
Case length 38.001.496 ·
Overall length 56.002.205 ·

Size vs familiar rounds

Drawn at true 1:1 — every case is accurate relative to the others. Absolute size depends on your screen's pixel density, so measuring one against a real ruler may be off. 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli is highlighted below.

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Factory loads

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Firearms chambered in 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli

1 model in the database chamber 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli. Browse all →

Vetterli Swiss Vetterli M1869

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History

Friedrich Vetterli combined the rotating bolt of the Dreyse needle gun with the tubular magazine of the Winchester repeater to create the Vetterli rifle — the most technically advanced military rifle of 1867. Switzerland adopted it in 1867 as the world's first repeating military rifle. The rimfire 10.4mm cartridge fed from a 12-round tube magazine, giving Swiss soldiers a 12:1 firepower advantage over single-shot opponents. Italy adopted a variant for the Vetterli-Vitali in 1871. The cartridge's rimfire design proved a limitation — not readily reloadable in the field and sensitive to primer reliability. The transition to smokeless powder in the 1880s rendered it obsolete, and Switzerland adopted the superior straight-pull Schmidt-Rubin in 1889. Many Vetterli rifles were converted to centerfire during their service life.

FAQs

What twist rate does 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli use?
10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli typically uses a 1:22 twist rate.
What bullet diameter is 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli?
10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli uses a 0.415″ (10.54 mm) diameter bullet.
Is 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli still in production?
10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli is obsolete; typical availability is collector only.
What is 10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli used for?
10.4x38mm Swiss Vetterli is primarily used for military (historical).

Sources & provenance

Data & sources. Specs compiled from the Lindcott Armory reference; availability counted from 6 live factory loads; the trajectory is modeled (point-mass), not measured. See methodology. Spotted an error? Report it →