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Revolver · Not SAAMI standardized · Not standardizedObsolete

10.4mm Swiss Ordnance

Also known as 10.4x20mmR Swiss Ordnance Revolver M1878 · 10.4mm Swiss Centerfire

Switzerland's military revolver cartridge adopted in 1877 for the Chamelot-Delvigne revolver.

Caliber
0.4236″ · 10.76 mm
Introduced
1878
Case
Rimless
Parent
10.4mm Swiss Rimfire
Primary use
Military/LE
Status
Discontinued
Obsolete
Obsolete

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EnergyBeing verified
Typical grains193 gr
Identity
Introduced
1878
Type
Revolver
Origin
Switzerland
Inventor
Swiss military
Manufacturer
Swiss Military
Standard
Not SAAMI standardized · Not standardized
SAAMI
Not SAAMI standardized
Obsolete
Obsolete
Status
Discontinued
Availability
Collector
Build
Case capacity
20 gr H₂O
Twist (typical)
1:20
Primer
Boxer Small Pistol
Case type
Rimless
Pressure & range
Max pressure
15,000 psi, CIP transducer
Eff. range
50 yd
Max range
2650 yd
Recoil
7.1–11 ft·lb
Subsonic
Capable

Ballistics

Published velocity/energy data isn't available for 10.4mm Swiss Ordnance — an obsolete/collector cartridge. Parent case: 10.4mm Swiss Rimfire.

Performance

Best for Withheld until verified
Best for Withheld until verified
Dimensionscase measurements · scale drawing · size vs familiar rounds

Case dimensions — the scale drawing at the top of the page is built from these.

Wikipedia · verified
Measuremmin✓
Bullet ⌀ 10.760.424 ✓
Neck ⌀ 10.800.425 ✓
Shoulder ⌀ n/a
Shoulder angle n/a
Base ⌀ 11.200.441 ✓
Rim ⌀ 13.300.524 ✓
Belt ⌀ n/a
Rim thickness 1.100.043 ✓
Neck length n/a
Case length 20.000.787 ✓
Overall length 32.001.260 ✓

Size vs familiar rounds

Drawn at true 1:1 — every case is accurate relative to the others. Absolute size depends on your screen's pixel density, so measuring one against a real ruler may be off. 10.4mm Swiss Ordnance is highlighted below.

Factory loads

Verification

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Advertised FPS, energy, and BC are withheld until loads clear verification.

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Lineage

Immediate parent
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History

Switzerland adopted this revolver cartridge in 1877 for the Schmidt-Galand and later Chamelot-Delvigne revolvers issued to Swiss officers. A simple black powder design that served the Swiss military until replaced by Schmidt-Rubin rifle cartridges and more modern pistols in the early 20th century.

FAQs

What twist rate does 10.4mm Swiss Ordnance use?
10.4mm Swiss Ordnance typically uses a 1:20 twist rate.
What bullet diameter is 10.4mm Swiss Ordnance?
10.4mm Swiss Ordnance uses a 0.4236″ (10.76 mm) diameter bullet.
Is 10.4mm Swiss Ordnance still in production?
10.4mm Swiss Ordnance is discontinued; typical availability is collector.
What is 10.4mm Swiss Ordnance used for?
10.4mm Swiss Ordnance is primarily used for military/le.
What is 10.4mm Swiss Ordnance based on?
10.4mm Swiss Ordnance is derived from the 10.4mm Swiss Rimfire case.

Sources & provenance

Data & sources. Specs compiled from the Lindcott Armory reference; availability counted from 4 live factory loads; the trajectory is modeled (point-mass), not measured. See methodology. Spotted an error? Report it →

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