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Pistol · Not SAAMI standardized · Not standardizedObsolete

7.65mm Roth-Sauer

Also known as 7.65 Frommer

7.65mm Roth-Sauer is a rimless straight-walled pistol cartridge of Germany, Hungary origin.

Caliber
0.3″ · 7.62 mm
Introduced
1905
Case
Rimless
Primary use
Self-Defense, Target
Status
Obsolete
Obsolete
Obsolete

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Velocity820 fps
Energy106 ft·lb
Identity
Introduced
1905
Type
Pistol
Origin
Germany, Hungary
Inventor
Karel Krnka
Manufacturer
J.P. Sauer & Sohn
Standard
Not SAAMI standardized · Not standardized
SAAMI
Not SAAMI standardized
Obsolete
Obsolete
Status
Obsolete
Availability
Collector
Build
Case capacity
6.6 gr H₂O
Twist (typical)
1:10
Primer
Small Pistol
Case type
Rimless
Pressure & range
Max pressure
14,500 psi, CIP transducer
Eff. range
50 yd
Max range
250 yd
Recoil
0.9 ft·lb
Subsonic
Capable

Introduced by J.P. Sauer & Sohn

Ballistics

Representative trajectory · velocity only, no drag model · 25 yd zero0–200 yd
-80" -60" -40" -20" 0" Line of sight 0 yd 50 yd 100 yd 150 yd 200 yd 25 yd zero 90″ drop @ 200 yd
Drop Zero

Velocity only, no drag model: no published ballistic coefficient is on file for 7.65mm Roth-Sauer, so this is the shape gravity alone gives the advertised velocity. Drag would steepen it. The tool below solves real loads through their published G1 or G7 model.

Open in Ballistic Compare
Parent case
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Representative trajectory — modeled from a single velocity input (no published BC for this cartridge yet).

Dimensionscase measurements · scale drawing · size vs familiar rounds

Case dimensions — the scale drawing at the top of the page is built from these.

Wikipedia · secondary source
Measuremmin✓
Bullet ⌀ 7.620.300 ·
Neck ⌀ 8.430.332 ·
Shoulder ⌀ n/a
Shoulder angle n/a
Base ⌀ 8.510.335 ·
Rim ⌀ 8.510.335 ·
Belt ⌀ n/a
Rim thickness 1.090.043 ·
Neck length n/a
Case length 12.950.510 ·
Overall length 21.340.840 ·

Size vs familiar rounds

Drawn at true 1:1 — every case is accurate relative to the others. Absolute size depends on your screen's pixel density, so measuring one against a real ruler may be off. 7.65mm Roth-Sauer is highlighted below.

Reloading costestimate cost per round vs factory

Estimate your cost per round and how it compares to factory. Inputs are yours — nothing is stored.

Cost estimate only — not load data. Charge weight is your input; follow published manuals for safe charges.

Connected reference

History

Introduced around 1905 by Karel Krnka.

FAQs

What twist rate does 7.65mm Roth-Sauer use?
7.65mm Roth-Sauer typically uses a 1:10 twist rate.
What bullet diameter is 7.65mm Roth-Sauer?
7.65mm Roth-Sauer uses a 0.3″ (7.62 mm) diameter bullet.
Is 7.65mm Roth-Sauer still in production?
7.65mm Roth-Sauer is obsolete; typical availability is collector.
What is 7.65mm Roth-Sauer used for?
7.65mm Roth-Sauer is primarily used for self-defense, target.

Sources & provenance

Data & sources. Specs compiled from the Lindcott Armory reference; the trajectory is modeled (point-mass), not measured. See methodology. Spotted an error? Report it →

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