Pistol · Military

.30 Pedersen

7.65x20mm Pedersen7.65mm PedersenPedersen Device cartridge

Unique WWI cartridge developed for the secret Pedersen Device that converted the M1903 Springfield into a semi-automatic rifle; one of the most historically significant forgotten American cartridges..

Caliber
0.3102″ · 7.88 mm
Introduced
1918
Case
Semi-Rimless
Primary use
Military service
Status
Discontinued
Velocity1,100–1,300 fps
Energy215–300 ft·lb · est.
Identity
Introduced
1918
Type
Pistol
Origin
United States
Inventor
John Pedersen
Standard
Military
Status
Discontinued
Availability
Rare
Build
Primer
Boxer Small Pistol
Case type
Semi-Rimless
Pressure & range
Eff. range
100 yd

Ballistics

Representative trajectory · 25 yd zero0–200 yd
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Parent case

Representative trajectory — modeled from a single velocity input (no published BC for this cartridge yet).

Dimensionscase measurements · scale drawing · size vs familiar rounds

Case dimensions — the scale drawing at the top of the page is built from these.

CIP TDCC · approximate
Measuremmin
Bullet ⌀7.880.310~
Neck ⌀8.550.337·
Shoulder ⌀n/a
Shoulder anglen/a
Base ⌀8.550.337·
Rim ⌀8.550.337·
Belt ⌀n/a
Rim thickness1.050.041·
Neck lengthn/a
Case length19.700.776~
Overall length

Size vs familiar rounds

Drawn at true 1:1 — every case is accurate relative to the others. Absolute size depends on your screen's pixel density, so measuring one against a real ruler may be off. .30 Pedersen is highlighted below.

Reloading costestimate cost per round vs factory

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Lineage

Immediate parent
Root — no documented parent
Direct descendants (1)
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Connected reference

History

Developed in 1918 by John Pedersen for his secret 'Pedersen Device,' which converted the M1903 Springfield bolt-action rifle to fire semi-automatically using a blow-back mechanism. The .30 Pedersen cartridge was produced in quantity in preparation for the 1919 offensive that never came due to the Armistice. General Pershing called the Pedersen Device the greatest military secret of WWI. All devices and most ammunition were destroyed afterward.

FAQs

What bullet diameter is .30 Pedersen?
.30 Pedersen uses a 0.3102″ (7.88 mm) diameter bullet.
Is .30 Pedersen still in production?
.30 Pedersen is discontinued; typical availability is rare.

Sources & provenance

Data & sources. Specs compiled from the Lindcott Armory reference; the trajectory is modeled (point-mass), not measured. See methodology. Spotted an error? Report it →