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7.65mm Longue

Also known as 7.65 French Long · 7.65 MAS · 7.65x20mm · 7.65 Long

The 7.65mm Longue is a French military pistol cartridge developed for the MAS Modèle 1935 semi-automatic pistol.

Caliber
0.3102″ · 7.88 mm
Introduced
1935
Case
Rimless
Parent
.30 Pedersen
Primary use
military
Status
Discontinued

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Typical grains77 · 85 · 86 gr
Identity
Introduced
1935
Type
Pistol
Origin
France
Inventor
French military (SACM)
Manufacturer
SACM / MAS
Standard
Military
Status
Discontinued
Availability
Rare
Build
Case capacity
11.2 gr H₂O
Twist (typical)
1:10
Primer
Small Pistol
Case type
Rimless
Pressure & range
Max pressure
23,931 psi, CIP transducer
Eff. range
50 yd
Max range
2250 yd
Recoil
1.3–1.4 ft·lb

Ballistics

Published velocity/energy data isn't available for 7.65mm Longue — an obsolete/collector cartridge. Parent case: .30 Pedersen.

Performance

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Dimensionscase measurements · scale drawing · size vs familiar rounds

Case dimensions — the scale drawing at the top of the page is built from these.

CIP TDCC · approximate
Measuremmin✓
Bullet ⌀ 7.880.310 ~
Neck ⌀ 8.550.337 ~
Shoulder ⌀ n/a
Shoulder angle n/a
Base ⌀ 8.550.337 ✓
Rim ⌀ 8.550.337 ✓
Belt ⌀ n/a
Rim thickness 1.050.041 ✓
Neck length n/a
Case length 19.800.780 ✓
Overall length 30.501.201 ~

Size vs familiar rounds

Drawn at true 1:1 — every case is accurate relative to the others. Absolute size depends on your screen's pixel density, so measuring one against a real ruler may be off. 7.65mm Longue is highlighted below.

Factory loads

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Firearms chambered in 7.65mm Longue

MAS Modele 1935S 7.65mm 4.1-inchMAS MAS-38 7.65mm Longue French SMGMAS Model 1935AMAC Mle 1935S Police PistolMAS Modele 1935A 7.65mm 4.33-inchMAC MAS Mle 1935S PistolMAC Mle 1935A Pistol 7.65mmMAC Mle 1935AMAC Mle 1935A Semi-Auto Pistol

Lineage

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History

Developed in the early 1930s by SACM (Société Alsacienne de Construction Mécanique) alongside the MAS 1935 pistol to replace the 8mm Lebel revolver cartridge in French military service. It served as the standard French military pistol cartridge through World War II (under German occupation, German forces also used captured MAS pistols) and into the postwar period, until France transitioned to the 9mm Parabellum with the MAC Mle 1950. The cartridge was officially retired by the French military in the 1970s.

FAQs

What twist rate does 7.65mm Longue use?
7.65mm Longue typically uses a 1:10 twist rate.
What bullet diameter is 7.65mm Longue?
7.65mm Longue uses a 0.3102″ (7.88 mm) diameter bullet.
Is 7.65mm Longue still in production?
7.65mm Longue is discontinued; typical availability is rare.
What is 7.65mm Longue used for?
7.65mm Longue is primarily used for military.
What is 7.65mm Longue based on?
7.65mm Longue is derived from the .30 Pedersen case.

Sources & provenance

Data & sources. Specs compiled from the Lindcott Armory reference; availability counted from 9 live factory loads; the trajectory is modeled (point-mass), not measured. See methodology. Spotted an error? Report it →

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